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58 — Joy (Self-indulgence) — HEXAGRAM NUMBER FIFTY-EIGHT JOY ( SELF-INDULGENCE). Other titles: The Joyous, Joyousness, Pleased Satisfaction . Same reading twice! (58 -> 51). Hello, I have a pretty clear idea of what the iching is telling me, but I would like a second and third opinion. The hexagram means calmness and the absence of urgency. Calmness may mean that one’s environment is quiet and free of pressure and that changes are.

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I Ching Hexagram #58:

I used the Iching last week to interpert a certain day-to-day event that I witnessed during a heexagrama meditation vision quest, but that’s beside the point. I asked the question not with words, rather I focused on the event and asked to learn what its significance was. I interperted this as telling me that I need to gather myself into my center and watch out for negative influence from people around.

I wrote to myself that the Iching is talking about the idea that I’ve been considering for a while, of moving away from the city in which I live with many friends to a quieter place, where I can focus on my studies for two courses that I am taking, and spend more time in the wild, which is what one of those courses deals with mainly. Hxeagrama second and fifth lines seem to be addressing exactly this: Today I asked the Iching specifically if I should move out of this city and again I got the same answer exactly – I guess the message is pretty strong.


I don’t know if I want to leave though, maybe I can stay where I am and still do my work, it hexatrama possible but requires a great hexagrwma of will. I feel that hex 58 in this context means not joy but more like hedonism, there is much fun in the city for me but not enough fulfillment. I am not sure whether to interpert hex 51 as refering to staying where I am and overcoming the difficulty regardless, or “Six in the second place means: Shock comes brining danger.

A hundred thousand times You lose your treasures And must climb the nine hills. Do not go in pursuit of them.

…life can be translucent

After seven days you will get them back again. Thank you for reading, I would like to hear your thoughts.

Hi Yaniv, Hexagram 58 changing to 51, as you rightly state, seems very much about communication, keeping a clear head and weathering the storm. It is also about expanding your social networks and interacting with as many likeminded people as possible. In Hex 58 this influence is strong and therefore 58 also advises aganist going it alone.

Being isolated from your loved ones is not the desired of outcome of Hexagram According to Hexagram 58 you should speak up for yourself but show others the same respect and consideration that you want for yourself. The changing lines seem to suggest that whilst it is important to tolorate other peoples points of view or behaviour you should not do so at the expense of your own. A further suggestion is that you do need to take some action to secure your well-being. It could also mean that speaking up for yourself and staying put will also appear to sever the link that is pulling you away.

Again, stay calm and level headed because ‘in seven days comes the return Hexagram 51 which includes the transformative properties of Hex 58 – advises aganist rash or rushed decisions. It advises you not use negative manipulation to get your need meet or to be manipulated by what other people do and say. The true essence of 58 is Joy.


So, if, as your post suggests, you are happy where you are and don’t want to move away then the negative influence that you need to protect yourself from seems to be isolation. Perhaps it is that pull that is the negative one and 58 appears to confirm this by suggesting that isolation is not the right way to go.

Love Interpretation of I-Ching Hexagram #58 –

If on the other hand – staying put means that you will be isolated and alone, then of course this is not what 58 is advising.

Whatever the case scenario Hexagram 51 offers some guidance. With 51 it is important not to act out of fear, panic or something other than clear, rational thought. Think things through and speak to who you need to speak to so that you are fully aware of the possible consequences of your proposed actions.

Know what you would do if faced with a worst case senario. So, 58 changing to 51 seems therefore to be about comminication. Above all, the Hexagrams and changing lines hfxagrama to advise – Staying calm, keeping a clear head, and not being afarid to asked for the support you need.

James DeKorne’s Official Website – The Gnostic Book of Changes – Hexagram 58

Moreover, the Hexagrams appear to counsel that perhaps by speaking up, listening and being heard you will eventually come to a solution that you are all happy with Best wishes Yaniv Crystalstar. I’m letting hexatrama be creative and letting things resonate intuitively. The entire structure you presented is incredibly helpful!

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